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NEED 2 SHOPPING CARTS FOR CHECKOUT

Knowledge Base Lobby : uShop Support Conference : Programmer Tips
Nov-23-17 10:58 PM EST
Original Message
NEED 2 SHOPPING CARTS FOR CHECKOUT
Author Laurie on 07-11-2000 at 11:58 (EST)
Due to shipping considerations that have been discussed earlier, I need a cart that will check out with 'NO SHIPPING CARGE' and one that will check 'WITH SHIPPING CHARGES [PERCENTAGE+]'..

I'm going to try not to confuse the issue.

If I set up 2 complete seperate carts, I'll have 5 categories in 1 [no shipping- shop1] and 30 categories in the other [shipping applied- shop2]. This would be simple but not practical. I need all my categories to show up in the same place or my customers will get lost.

I have created my own catalog directory with all categories [all I would need to do is place all the catagoy links from both carts.] But the problem with this is the link on each cart, I think it says 'main entrance' will only bring me back to either cart 1 or 2 when clicked on.

Please tell me I can somehow get all categories in one shop, but have 2 checkout carts the products are directed to........

Laurie K.
PLEASE EMAIL ME WHEN RESPONSE IS IN,
NEED URGENT HELP...........
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  RE: NEED 2 SHOPPING CARTS FOR CHECKOUT Bill Weiner, 2000-07-11 13:10:00 (1)
            2 shopping carts/ due to shipping LAURIE KOZDRON, 2000-07-11 15:33:25 (2)
                 SHIPPING LAURIE KOZDRON, 2000-07-11 15:39:58 (3)
                      RE: SHIPPING Bill Weiner, 2000-07-11 19:54:56 (4)
                           1 catalog 2 order forms Laurie, 2000-07-12 08:16:15 (5)
                                COPY AND PASTE MISSING FROM LAST POST Laurie, 2000-07-12 08:22:46 (6)
                                     RE: COPY AND PASTE MISSING FROM LAST POST Bill Weiner, 2000-07-12 13:00:43 (7)
                                          2 order forms through 1 crt Laurie, 2000-07-13 08:58:21 (8)
                                               RE: 2 order forms through 1 crt Bill Weiner, 2000-07-13 13:03:20 (9)
                                                    links in catalog Laurie, 2000-07-13 16:33:08 (10)
                                                         sorry Laurie, 2000-07-13 16:53:33 (11)
                                                              RE: sorry Bill Weiner, 2000-07-14 05:49:07 (12)

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         1. RE: NEED 2 SHOPPING CARTS FOR CHECKOUT
        Author Bill Weiner on 07-11-2000 at 13:10 (EST)
So in other words, you have some products that you want to charge shipping on and other products that you do not want to charge shipping on. Correct?

Well, based on how you intend to calculate the shipping charges for the items in your store that do have shipping charges, I may be have a few suggestions that will make everything easier. Give me your "shipping" parameter settings (including the calculation type BY_WEIGHT, BY_QUANTITY, BY_SUBTOTAL, or FLAT_RATE) and I may have a few suggestions for you that would make everything easier.
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                 2. 2 shopping carts/ due to shipping
                Author LAURIE KOZDRON on 07-11-2000 at 15:33 (EST)
Hello'

I have talked to you in the past about shipping to try and solve my problem an easier way - but there was none.

yes - 15% of our products are 'intangible' therefore - no shipping charge.........
- 85% of our products are 'tangible' requiring shipping - the calculation has to be [10% + $2.00] minimum order $3.50... because of our product type and wide price range we cannot use weight as you suggested once before. It just won't work.............

Laurie
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                         3. SHIPPING
                        Author LAURIE KOZDRON on 07-11-2000 at 15:39 (EST)
sorry - didn't tell you 'SUBTOTAL'.........
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                                 4. RE: SHIPPING
                                Author Bill Weiner on 07-11-2000 at 19:54 (EST)
Well I guess I'm not clear on what you want to do with the carts/order forms.

If you want items separated into two different carts, then you would have to use to different CODEBASE settings. For instance, the codebase of all your tangible items could be something like codebase="../tangible_classes/" while the codebase of all of your non-tangible items could be something like codebase="../nontangible_classes/". That will essentially create two different shopping carts on the same site.

Otherwise, if you want to use the same cart for all items, but have two different order forms.....then you can do that by simply setting up two different order pages. One order page would be for your tangible items (with the shipping parameter set to whatever SUBTOTAL calculation you want). And the other order page would be for your non-tangible items (with the shipping parameter set to a FLAT_RATE of $0.00).

Maybe this information answers your question? Otherwise, I would suggest submitting a support request to us with a full description of what you want to do.
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                                         5. 1 catalog 2 order forms
                                        Author Laurie on 07-12-2000 at 08:16 (EST)
Sorry if we had a slight missunderstanding.

I only mentioned putting my categories in 2 carts because I was given some obviously wrong info from my host company.

I want all categories in 1 cart and 2 checkout forms. You said it below;;;;;

>>

Can you discribe to me - or give me a link that has directions on how to do this. [the easiest way possible]..

Just so I'm clear - 1 CART with all my products and categories - when a tangible purchase is made it goes to one checkout form - when an intangible purchase is made it goes to a second checkout form.....

Laurie
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                                                 6. COPY AND PASTE MISSING FROM LAST POST
                                                Author Laurie on 07-12-2000 at 08:22 (EST)
EXACTLY LIKE YOU SAID;;;;
, if you want to use the same cart for all items, but have two different order forms.....then you can do that by simply setting up two different order pages. One order page would be for your tangible items (with the shipping parameter set to whatever SUBTOTAL calculation you want). And the other order page would be for your non-tangible items (with the shipping parameter set to a FLAT_RATE of $0.00).

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                                                         7. RE: COPY AND PASTE MISSING FROM LAST POST
                                                        Author Bill Weiner on 07-12-2000 at 13:00 (EST)
There are a couple different ways to setup multiple order forms for the same store based on whether you are using the uShopOrderButtonCGI applet or not.

OPTION 1 (WITHOUT USING ANY uShopOrderButtonCGI APPLETS)
The easiest thing to do is to setup two regular HTML links on your "View Cart" page. For your case, one link could say "TO ORDER TANGIBLE ITEMS CLICK HERE" and the other link could say "TO ORDER INTANGIBLE ITEMS CLICK HERE". Then just link the first one to an HMTL page with a uShopOrder applet on it with the "shipping" parameter setup with your BY_SUBTOTAL calculation. And link the second one to a different HTML page with a uShopOrder applet on it with the "shipping" parameter setup with a FLAT_RATE of $0.00. Both order applets can link to the same ushop_cgiscript on your secure server.

OPTION 2 (USING TWO uShopOrderButtonCGI APPLETS)
Similar to OPTION 1 described above, this option would involve creating two different "order.template" pages....one for tangible items and one for intangible items. Give the templates two different names such as "order1.template" and "order2.template". Then back on your regular store pages - possibly your "View Cart" page - you would just need to put two uShopOrderButtonCGI applets. Have one uShopOrderButtonCGI applet specify "order1.template" as the order_page parameter and have the other specify "order2.template" as it's order_page parameter. You can add additional instructions on your page in order to help customers select between the "tangible" item order form or the "intangible" item order form.

Does this information solve the problem?
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                                                                 8. 2 order forms through 1 crt
                                                                Author Laurie on 07-13-2000 at 08:58 (EST)
Your solutions would work Bill - but it's not that simple for my customer.

My 1200 products are divided into 36 different categories. My customer will not know which categories or products involve shipping or not [I'd like to get away from using tangible/intangible, I should have never usede them....] As far as putting links it would become to confusing for them.

You've always been a big help but this is to complicated, is there a place I can call you?

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QUESTIONS;

I need 1 [only 1] cart to show all my 1200 products and 32 categories......

My customers need to be able to just click on any category - then go to any product - click add - and have it go to either my 'with shipping checkout' or 'no shipping chechout'.....

If this can't be done I would like to ask you something else'''''''''' The link on the cart that says 'MAIN ENTRANCE'.... Can I change it so it goes to an HTML page?

Thank you for all your assistance,
Laurie Kozdron
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                                                                         9. RE: 2 order forms through 1 crt
                                                                        Author Bill Weiner on 07-13-2000 at 13:03 (EST)
In regard to putting all items in the same cart, that is done by just making sure the CODEBASE setting of all of your applets is EXACTLY the same. That is, if you created a "classes" directory on the same directory level as all of your category directories, similar to this:

- Your Main Directory
...I
...I- category1 html
...I
...I- category2 html
...I
...I- category3 html
...I
...I- classes
...I
...I- images

Then you should set the CODEBASE of all of your applets to:

codebase="../classes/"

This will ensure that whenever a product's ADD button is pressed, the items will be added to same shopping cart.

So that will get all products in the same cart for you.

There is no way, however, that once the customer is done shopping, the products in the shopping cart will be automatically split up and directed to the "shipping checkout" and/or "no shipping checkout"....without setting up links or order buttons as discussed in my previous post to this forum..... Which kind of brings us back to the original question of if it is possible to mark some items as having a "no-charge" shipping....which at this time, the answer is no...unless you were charging a constant rate per item shipped such as $1.00 per item (because then we could have use shipping BY_WEIGHT or BY_QUANTITY as a work around...ie. marking "no charge shipping" items with a WEIGHT or QUANTITY of 0.) But since you want to setup shipping by subtotal, then that can't be done at this time. (In uShop 3.0 you can...but we have not released that yet).

Anyway, in regard to your other question, I'm not sure what you mean by "MAIN ENTRANCE". uShop store's do not have any "MAIN ENTRANCE" pages. Because the uShop applets can be added to any HTML page....you as the developer are free to design your store any way you want...using regular HTML. Perhaps you are looking at some example store, so just remember you can have whatever page layout you want and have whatever links you want in your store. The uShop applets can be added to any HTML page.

I hope this information helps.
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                                                                                 10. links in catalog
                                                                                Author Laurie on 07-13-2000 at 16:33 (EST)
Main Entrance&pip;View Shopping Cart&pip;Place Order&pip;Help

The words above are EXACTLY as they are on my SHOP page - just above the category listing [look at this URL and you will see the test site I have URL= http://www.precisionweb.net/nordzok/shop ]

I have version 2.0.1.

I don't think we are understanding each other.
I've explaned above what page and where it is, it does say 'Main Entrance'. When you click on this 'link' it brings you to the 'SHOP' page.

Can I change it's link, so it brings me to an HTML page of my own - this would solve my entire problem.
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                                                                                         11. sorry
                                                                                        Author Laurie on 07-13-2000 at 16:53 (EST)
I started looking around your site better - and I think I was given this forum by mistake. I was told USHOP was the same as ULTRA SHOP by one of the techs were I hosted once but now I see they are alike but not the same.

Sorry I wasted your time. NO wonder we couldn't get it together.

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                                                                                                 12. RE: sorry
                                                                                                Author Bill Weiner on 07-14-2000 at 05:49 (EST)
That explains it! I felt like we were starting to go around in circles. No problem :^)

(FYI: NO UltraShop is NOT the same as uShop and they should NOT be advertizing it as uShop. We already successfully won the opposition when they tried to register UltraShop with the uShop trademark. We have also already applied for our own registed trademark on uShop and are just awaiting final approval of the registered trademark).
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